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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: Coherence on July 26, 2011, 08:19 pm
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Coherence
I sell stimulants, especially modafinil (aka Provigil, Modalert, etc.) I aim to provide the best product at the best prices. Don't hesitate to challenge me.
I have for sale at the moment
* Modafinil tablets, 200 mg dosage by 5, 10 or 30.
* Armodafinil tablets, 150 mg dosage by 5, or 10.
Please use this topic for the reviews of my service & products, as well as any feedback or question.
My page on SR:
http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/index.php/silkroad/user/33046
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Welcome to Silk Road and the Forums. :D
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First post updated, with some news and the feedback I have received (thanks!)
If a satisfied buyer happened to find this topic, I'd be grateful if they could give some more first-hand feedback :)
Cheers!
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good god man do you have a teleporter or something! absurdly quick delivery and an extra too, will report back on the stuff itself soon. thanks
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just crunched one up (for that quicker effect) and downed it so we shall see how it goes ;D
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well these things are certainly interesting, ive always said id never take drugs to get things done just for fun when im finished, but this stuff is a bit different, its not even so much recreational but rather useful, i can see why they dont call it a straight stimulant, its much more subtle than that, about an hour after taking one i had to go into town, i got to the bus stop, then i thought no ill walk it, so i got the ten toe turbo on and got what i had to get, on getting back i found myself looking for things to do, no matter the monotony or intricacy of the tasks, infact almost the more so the better, i could almost imagine quite getting into a task like say sorting mixed screws by length which would normally drive you mad. i wouldnt even call it a wakefulness promoting agent but rather a motivational and focus promoting agent, and when it came time to go to bed i drifted off to the land of nod with not a prob. next time im making sure i have something intricate to do, maybe a big jigsaw puzzle would be good i imagine or some sort of puzzle based video game. oh and just to add no negative side effects at all
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I'm reachable at coherence@tormail.net if needed.
Cheers
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Coherence is madly professional. I'm really impressed. Packaging was flawless, I thought I was getting a bill or a court summons or something. Took four days from Eu to Canada.
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Coherence is a straight-up great vendor, who I would not hesitate to recommend to anyone who is after a stress-free, professional transaction with a switched-on, trustworthy businessman (business-person?).
Delivery to Australia took less than a week, I didn't have to finalize the transaction until I had the package in my hand, the product was exactly as advertised and the packaging was highly professional.
This entire experience has been a pleasure for me and I will definitely be a repeat customer.
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Just wanted to add my experience with Coherence. I placed an order which unfortunately never reached me. Coherence was the soul of professionalism and attentiveness during the whole process. I offered to resolve with a 75% refund to help cover his costs and he insisted on refunding 100% of my BC. A second package is hopefully on its way, and if that one arrives, I will certainly be ordering again.
To be clear, I am in to way holding Coherence at fault for my lost package. Shit happens, and he was more than wonderful as a vendor.
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Thank you all for your feedback. It's much appreciated.
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Just placed an order a bit ago, can't wait to try this stuff out. I've heard great things about the product and this vendor :D
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Thanks :)
By the way, I'm doing a discount on armodafinil at the moment, selling it at the same price as modafinil. If you've ever wanted to try some, now is the time ;)
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Thanks :)
By the way, I'm doing a discount on armodafinil at the moment, selling it at the same price as modafinil. If you've ever wanted to try some, now is the time ;)
Is armodafinil better than modafinil? Any experience?
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Modafinil is a racemic compound (i.e. an even mix of two versions of the same molecule) where only the (R)-stereoisomer (version) is active. The other one just takes up space, and may (I'm no physician, I don't know for sure) contribute to side-effects. Armodafinil is the "enantiopure" compound that contains only the active stereoisomer. So basically, that's exactly the same product, but it should be twice more potent mg for mg (if we disregard pharmacokinetics) and may have fewer side-effects.
I usually take half-tabs, and feel a bit more stimulated by halves of armodafinil (Waklert 150mg) than by halves of modafinil (Modalert 200mg).
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Gonna take a dive! =]
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I'll post real feedback once I get a chance to try the product, but 6 days to the US, and in the most meticulous packaging I think I've ever seen outside of Apple products.
For Coherence: You say you usually take halves; is that for alertness during the day after a short night of sleep? Have you come across ideal doses for a shortened sleep cycle vs no sleep? Or for pushing through an all-nighter for study or something?
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Wow, thanks a lot ! I'm glad you appreciate the care I put into it :)
For a short night of sleep, I'd tend to take a quarter before going to bed (you'll fall asleep before it kicks off, and it shouldn't wake you up — in my experience, it doesn't), then a quarter getting up. You'll feel much more refreshed for the time you slept. That's just the stimulant being active, obviously, so I don't recommend that on the long term, that doesn't seem healthy to me, but a good friend of mine does that, quite successfully for the time being.
For pushing through an all-nighter, taking too little doesn't let the substance do all the job it can. When I need to do so, I just take an half when I feel that I'm getting more tired/slow/unfocused. Obviously, keep the usual dosages in mind. 100mg is a regular dose, 200mg is a lot, I think over 500mg would be very unwise, for instance. Let alone over 9000...
Also, once in a while, when I feel like it, I take a small 50mg right after my morning coffee (not before, that'd ruin its aroma). They're good pals when it comes to kickstarting the day.
In any case, don't hesitate to post your experiences about it here, I'm looking forward to reading you.
Cheers!
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Got my package today! It's a great feeling having my first transaction on SR go flawlessly, Coherence is a great vendor and I will definitely be buying again. Not sure exactly when it arrived as I only check every few days. As the guy a few posts before said, great packaging indeed! I'll be taking 50-100mg tomorrow morning to test it out, and more during the week. Planning on buying some Armodafinil to compare the results though.
Thanks again!
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Just received mine today. I haven't been home to check them, but a friend said that the pills might have been crushed. I'm planning to pick them up on Monday and test them the next day.
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So I took 100mg this morning and after a few hours took another 100mg. The only drugs I normally take are adderall and caffeine, and I couldn't really tell if the modafinil was working, maybe because I was expecting a speedy rush like I get on adderall. Should I try snorting it? I've heard/ read it's not water soluble so snorting doesn't even do anything, is this info wrong? Higher dose maybe?
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Last time I checked, it's not *exactly* a stimulant. From Wikipedia (slightly abridged for clarity):
[Modafinil is a] "wakefulness promoting agent" rather than a classic amphetamine-like stimulant.
…modafinil is approved… …for the treatment of narcolepsy, obstructive sleep apnea/hypopnea and shift work sleep disorder… …it is also approved for idiopathic hypersomnia (all forms of excessive daytime sleepiness where causes can't be established). The usual prescribed dosage for these disorders is 200 mg once a day (less commonly, 100 to 400 mg/day in one or two doses).
For conditions other than shift work sleep disorder, modafinil is normally taken in one dose in the morning or in two doses in the morning and at midday. It is generally not recommended to take modafinil after noon: modafinil is a relatively long-acting drug with a half-life of 15 hours, and taking it during the later part of the day carries a risk of sleep disturbances.
Modafinil is widely used off-label to suppress the need for sleep, where it improves working memory after sleep deprivation. It is also used off-label in combating general fatigue unrelated to lack of sleep such as in treating ADHD and as an adjunct to antidepressants (particularly in individuals with significant residual fatigue).
I wouldn't push the dose too much.
From what I can gather from Erowid reports, there's little to no bodily effects - if you're physically exhausted, this won't give you a boost like caffeine or adderall. It will—however—snap your mind into a state as though you've had sleep; cognition and problem solving after sleep deprivation takes a steep dive, but modafinil seems to reset your brain to a "I've just had 8 hours of sleep" state where you can still problem solve and think like you hadn't been awake for 48 hours.
I'd heard of this and investigated it because I not only have an incredibly persistent sleep disorder which needs intervention every couple weeks, but at the time I was working a graveyard shift and the lack of a day/night cycle was causing massive disruptions in my sleep. I'd get to the point where I'd only have a few hours that I could sleep or opt to stay awake through; the work was largely sedentary, so the physical energy levels were still high, but my mind was a constant fog on those nights.
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In the movie Limitless, they introduce this fictional, fantastical drug "NZT" that makes your brain work at maximum capacity, and right from the start they say, "It works better if you're already smart."
Y'know, I'd never thought of that, but having just seen "Limitless" I think you might be on to something.
Modafinil will give you jitters and make you feel on edge if you take more than you're used to (say 200mg when you've not built up any tolerance), but if you are taking it in reasonable doses and you're already smart it has the effect of turning on and connecting all the circuitry in your brain. You _don't_ get high, you just perform better (much, much better).
I agree that you don't get high, but I'm not sure that I'd say it turns on and connects all the circuitry in your brain. I've had better luck with piracetam and other nootropics for that sort of purpose. Modafinil just keeps me awake and functional better than anything else when it's late at night and I've got work to do. Hm... I wonder how modafinil would synergize with piracetam and friends, if at all...
Anyway... since this is also a thread about buying from Coherence... definitely a recommended vendor - I bought some modafinil awhile back; shipping was quick and packaging was very professional. Looking forward to trying out the armodafinil.
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Hi guys :)
Thank you very much indeed for sharing your experiences. I agree too, you don't get high on this, whatever the dosage. It's quite subtle actually, I think a first-time user would remark the activity of the product more by its consequences i.e. you're getting much more done, work just flows, you don't need to take long breaks nor do you feel unmotivated to tackle the tasks at hand, or by the physical effects, i.e. maybe a bit of jitter maybe, not much, and appetite-suppression (which can be a problem, if you forget to eat and end up with too low a glycemia, you'd have a hard time focusing, etc.), rather than by their subjective feeling about their state of performance. It can mislead experienced users as well — how many times have I taken a quarter or a half of modafinil to get a bit of boost to work on something, to be disappointed a few hours later because I haven't felt an improvement, and to realize soon afterwards how long I had worked, and how much I had got done! :-)
Just received mine today. I haven't been home to check them, but a friend said that the pills might have been crushed. I'm planning to pick them up on Monday and test them the next day.
Hi, someone gave me a 4/5 with a similar feedback on the market, are you the same person? I'm extremely sorry if any pills got crushed, and I would also be extremely surprised if that were indeed the case. Failing to get their order to each of my customers in a perfect condition is a very severe failure in my view, so this issue is absolutely my #1 priority to work on here. If I understand correctly, you haven't seen the pills yet, so I'm waiting for some more information when you get to see them.
For those that may read this and who haven't received a package from me (or who have ordered recently 10 tabs or less and live in the Schengen area): there are 5 layers between the product and the exterior, on each side. Some give strength to the package, some absorb shocks. It takes a bit of time to prepare one order, and the supplies are quite expensive as well, but I'm determined to do whatever is needed to get my packages to their intended recipient, safely, securely, and with their content perfectly protected. When I was still a new seller, my packaging wasn't as good, but still only 3 letters arrived with broken pills (not even crushed per se), and only ONE guy gave me a 4/5 for this reason. I decided then that I did NOT want to have that ever happen again, so I've come with what's the current packaging (I have to give credit to a great guy who suggested an improvement too, thanks!) Now if that packaging cannot protect what I send...
What could be an explanation is that I have to press the plastic shells in which the pills are, otherwise they move too much and make a bit of noise (think maracas.) To do that I carefully bend the plastic around the pill with a metal round, to lock it in a given position and get it not to move, even if I shake the blister pack. So the result, when you open the package, is not aesthetically pleasing, sorry, but safer, and the pills are protected. Actually, when I do that, sometimes I tear the aluminum foil on the other side of the blister. In that case, I just put it away in a drawer and do it all over again with a new one, since I refuse to ship less-than-perfect items. I've got a drawer full of unsellable armodafinil now, for my own all-nighters :)
Anyway, we shall find out what happened soon.
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Hi, someone gave me a 4/5 with a similar feedback on the market, are you the same person?
Yepp, I just msg'ed you back about it. It's most likely a mess up on my end, I haven't been able to confirm if they are actually crushed or not (I don't currently have them, a friend does). I apologize for leaving the feedback before contacting you about it.
For anyone thinking of buying, Coherence does deliver and his communication is top notch. I didn't expect an essay regarding my issue. =]
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Coherence - FWIW, my 5-pack of Wakalert had two blisters with the foil torn around the edge. I initially didn't even notice it because of how carefully everything is molded around the pills. It's hard to say whether or not this occurred during transit, but I have to say that your packaging is so well-thought-out that I have a hard time thinking they managed to be popped during transit.
I didn't notice any corresponding deformations in the padding that surrounds it, and I'd think that anything that squeezed hard enough to pop the foil out would damage the padding in the process. Just an FYI.
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Oh, thanks for telling me about that monolingual. I'll do it otherwise from now on. Those noisy tabs are making me crazy.
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Just realize how long this was lol so:
TL/DR - Did more testing, loved it, and I'm getting more.
After a few more days of "testing" I have come to the conclusion that I thoroughly enjoy this product. While it does not give the 'speedy' effect, you are right that it does help with motivation/concentration.
First example - Had a final exam, thought I had 3 days then realized it was the next day, studied until 2am, took 100mg of modafinil, woke up at 7am, felt great (which is unusual) took another 100mg with breakfast, did my exam (was more focused than usual). So that experience alone got me to want some more.
Second example - Normally after working 12hr days I am dragging ass the next morning. This may be bad, not sure, but the past few days, before bed I take 100mg, then when I wake up @ 7am another 100mg and another 100mg at noon. I feel extremely motivated and focused all day (co-workers though I was on meth or something), which is not normal at all, especially near the end of the day (at which time I've been feeling great). No "comedown" and no trouble falling asleep at night.
Extremely satisfied, and earlier I put in an order for armodafinil so I can compare results.
PS - Coherence, any chance of some 'loose extras' for a returning customer? ;) I mean since you do have "a drawer full of unsellable armodafinil" lol.
At any rate, I have no doubt that I will be back for more later on. Great vendor!
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how about tolerance?
can it be used like 3-4 times a week, every week of the month and still work like it's supposed too?
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how about tolerance?
can it be used like 3-4 times a week, every week of the month and still work like it's supposed too?
Generally, yes. I know someone that has to take it every day because it counteracts the sleepiness induced by some of the other meds that he's on - I think there's a risk of elevated blood pressure if you're taking it regularly for 6 months or longer, but a few times per week for a month probably won't cause any sort of tolerance issues. My personal recommendation (I am not a doctor, I do not play one on TV) would be that if you're going to use it that frequently would be to do it every other day so that you can enjoy a full night's sleep between uses.
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Got the package today of the armodafinil. Guess that was a 'no' on the loose extras lol. I'll be ordering again either this or the moda depending on how these treat me.
Thanks again :)
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@zomgwtfbbq
thanks for the quality answer
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Got the package today of the armodafinil. Guess that was a 'no' on the loose extras lol. I'll be ordering again either this or the moda depending on how these treat me.
Thanks again :)
Sorry, didn't want to disappoint :-[ the package was already prepared, if not in the mail, when I saw your message. But I'll keep that in mind if you order again :)
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Just sent in my 2nd order to Coherence. First order arrived quickly, California, 200mg Modalert. Great stuff, looking forward to 2nd delivery! Thanks Coherence!
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After reading all this great stuff about Coherence I'm putting in my first ever SR order for some Modalert. Small amount to try but hopefully I'll be back for more!
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I'm gonna order some more for sure, soon as I get my current orders in lol.
I did notice a slight crash though, but it could of been from the other stuff I was taking.
My routine went like this for 5 days straight, I would take 1 armodafinil and 2 ephedrine every morning around 10am. The 6th day I didn't take anything and by 5pm when I was in my programming class I was falling asleep. (normally love it and am really focused). I remember writing code and suddenly looking at my screen realizing a half hour went by and I hadn't done jack shit lol.
so while I would define it as a crash, it was the best crash I've ever had since the only symptom that I had was being tired, which isn't bad at all, and the next day I was fine.
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Hi guys!
I've put some armodafinil back for sale, and lowered my prices on modafinil :-)
Cheers
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First post and first order from SR. Can't wait for it to arrive. Fingers crossed there's no issues getting it to NZ.. Cheers Coherence!
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Finally got a chance to try the armodafinil, and it's a winner. Better than the modafinil, IMHO. 75mg armodafinil (one tabiet, broken in half) seems to provide more wakefulness with less of the jitters that I sometimes get with 100mg modafinil. It's now late, late at night (or early in the morning, depending on your perspective) and I've got 150mg of armodafinil in me, and I feel like I could stay up and work on projects if I so choose or I could crash out and sleep happily without having to pound a ton xanax to do so. So, yeah... if you guys are debating between the two, give the armodafinil a try.
Packaging has much improved from my first order (like 6 months ago) - all tablets came intact, there was no pill outline on the outside of the envelope. Thanks, Coherence!
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2nd order received successfully and only about a week for California, 30 modapro. Thanks Coherence!
Personally I've been using 100mg just after breakfast 3-5 days per week.
It's cut my caffeine intake at least 60%, no problems sleeping at night.
Great stuff, I'm hoping that it doesn't do any long term damage.
Coherence - have you looked into offering other generic modafinil from Cipla, Intas? I wonder about the quality compared to Sun.
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Thanks for your feedback. I'm glad you like the not-so-new-now packaging zomgwtfbbq, I guess we all learn ;-)
Oh, did I mention I'm taking part in the big sale of this week-end ? :-)
@alex44878: I don't have access to other modafinil generics (but I can try to get some brand name Provigil, if someone's interested.) and have no reliable information about the quality of the others, unfortunately :S
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First SR order was a success, thanks to Coherence! Internationally delivered in around 8 days, everything is as you would hope it to be. Thanks :)
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Got my customer appreciation order in the mail today - just in time, too, since now my significant other has decided that she also likes armodafinil, and I'm going to have to share. :-(
Thanks again, Coherence - the productivity level in my house is off the charts. :-)
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I'm glad I you appreciate what I do :) And many thanks to you!
BTW, I've put up a new listing for 40-packs of armodafinil. I've got to tell you that, after having extensively tried both, I like armodafinil better, and I quite simply consider it to be superior (it's just purer modafinil in a sense: in armodafinil there's only the active stereoisomer of modafinil.) So I've made it a better deal :)
Also, a heads-up: my supply of modafinil is getting tigher :(
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Just received my shipment, Took 5 days to ship to the US!! very great deal on modafinil and some superb packaging. Definitely be doing more business with Coherence in the future.
Thanks again and keep it up.
AAA+++++ :)
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This vendor helped me out a bunch, very accommodating and all sides of the business are perfect, all for which I am grateful. Will be a regular customer. Cheers!
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I have placed two orders with Coherence the first took 5 days to the US and the second should be here with in the next few days. Can't really say what hasn't already been said; superb packaging and a real stand up vendor. Thanks for your hard work. ;D
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Thanks a lot! :)
I'm offering a rebate on my 30-packs of modafinil, at $64.
I hope you'll like it.
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Armodafinil back in stock, and modafinil even cheaper!
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How backed up are you sir? I placed an order on 3/28 and its showing processing and based off of my prior orders with you that's a bit longer than normal. I don't doubt for one minute I'll get them and I don't want to clog your inbox so I thought I'd ask here. Thanks!
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Hello,
I've sent it today, I don't have any more order in processing state at the moment. I've suffered the unfortunate co-occurence of lots of orders, and a ton of work from my day job that kept me off SR two days in a row. Now things should be back to normal. I hope you'll receive your order soon.
Kind regards
Coherence
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Professional vendor. Quick shipping, great packaging, and personally I like the product. Works well as an appetite suppressant / cognitive enhancer.
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Coherence, I placed an order on 03/05 and it's still in processing :'(. When can I expect you send it?
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Coherence, when you're going to restock your products?
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Modafinil is working pretty well for me as a cognitive enhancer. However, I'm really not liking the side effect of suppressed appetite. I already have a weak appetite and if I use Modafinil for a while I'm afraid I'll lose significant amounts of weight which I don't want. What can I do to stimulate my appetite? I do not want to use marijuana for this.
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What could be an explanation is that I have to press the plastic shells in which the pills are, otherwise they move too much and make a bit of noise (think maracas.) To do that I carefully bend the plastic around the pill with a metal round, to lock it in a given position and get it not to move, even if I shake the blister pack. So the result, when you open the package, is not aesthetically pleasing, sorry, but safer, and the pills are protected.
There's a much easier/faster way Coherence, just get a pin and pop each blister with it. Then use a single layer of vaccum packing to suck the air out. Now your package is both less likely to be contaminated en route and there is no rattle. Vaccum packing isn't just for illegal drug vendors!
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I've been using a bit of Modafinil recently as I have exams. I think it was really useful. I usually used 100mg in the morning to make sure I don't get sleepy during the day or 200mg when I had a small night, and it does exactly that. I often get really tired during the day even if I slept well and it's difficult to stay productive, so it was a good help.
There's almost no side effect, your appetite does diminish a bit but I had still no problem eating. One annoying thing is that it only wakes you up mentally, but if your quite tired you will still feel tired physically, but your mind is wide awake. Also when I took several in a row (300mg or more over two days), it usually gave me a headache after a while (not bad, it was gone with a paracetamol), and didn't work as well. Also it prevented me to get sleepy during the day, but I wasn't able to use it to get me through a night when I was really tired.
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Bump.
Has anyone else had issues with appetite? How did you deal with it?
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Hello!
Thank you all for the kind words :)
@cindylove: I happen to have the same problem, and I've found that lower doses work quite well without cutting my appetite too much. I'm popping armodafinil tablets quarters by quarters. Otherwise, I use "weight gainers" shakers.
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Arrived in less than a week to Australia. Coherence is a straight up awesome SR vendor. Props!
Good packaging and good communication. Have made 6 orders from SR allup (1 from Coherence), so far received 3 in record time, and 1.5 weeks on still waiting for the others. Will def deal with coherence again.
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A belated review from me. I ordered 10x200mg Modalert from Coherence over a month ago; shipping to eastern Australia was 7 or 8 days from memory, and packaging was great. I'm only getting around to using the product properly this week. Earlier this month, I experimented with two 100mg doses on different days, which did very little for me. And then one 200mg dose one morning, whereafter I attempted to keep normal sleeping hours - and found myself lying in bed, wide awake, for many hours that night. Tip: don't do that.
This week I've taken two doses of 200mg: one at 5pm on Monday, after waking at 10am. Then one at 1pm Tuesday, after grabbing three hours of sleep. I've slept for a total of six hours out of the last 63, which is just obscene. It's now 1am on Thursday and I'm wide awake, even though I didn't dose today at all. What a crazy drug.
Someone earlier in this thread said "It's a performance enhancer, not a drug you take for fun.” I completely concur with this. I wouldn't take it unless I had a task which required a significant amount of focused time to complete; otherwise I'd probably end up surfing the internet aimlessly.
Sidenote: I'm a journalist, and I'm writing a story about nootropics at the moment - and, obviously, taking a few nootropics and writing about my experiences - so there's a bit of meta-analysis going on throughout this period of wakefulness, all of which will be fed into the story. Good times.
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Is Coherence around at the moment? I have an order with him which has been 'processing' for several days now.
Anyone heard anything?
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He marked an order of mine as 'in transit' last week, sometime between Wednesday and Friday. He's around, maybe just snowed under orders.
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Is Coherence around at the moment? I have an order with him which has been 'processing' for several days now.
Anyone heard anything?
It sometimes can take a few days for him to process your order, but it will go through eventually.
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Thanks both of you. Coherence has been in touch so it's all good.
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Hey Coherence! Just was wondering on the status of your Armodafinil at the moment. Are you low on stock right now (only the x10 is listed)? If so, I was wondering when you might be getting more in. School will be starting soon for me, so I'm looking to buy one of the larger listings you used to have up.
Thanks!
ManOnACamel
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Hello ManOnACamel!
Yes, I was low on armodafinil until today. I've got some, but not much. I hope to receive some more in the near future.
Cheers
Coherence
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Hello,
as my 5th purchase from SR I bought 10 Modafinil tablets from coherence.
It has been in transit for 7 days, I'm hoping it arrives soon!
I will update when it arrives, with a reveiw on the product. (That's if it arrives)
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I received my packet from Coherence yesterday and soon after receiving it I wanted to try. I split the 150mg Armodafinil into 2 and shared with my SO. Took around 4 PM and did not feel any effect until about 5:30 PM or so. Around 6 PM things were going good and felt really good. Before taking the pill I had an headache and was no longer there around 6. My SO was feeling great as well. Next 4 hours flew just like that. By 10:30 PM my SO got so much done that I was really surprised as I have never seen her doing so much in little time.
around 10:45 PM my SO was getting ready to go to bed and I thought it would be good idea to give her another half of a pill so that she can sleep well and she well feel great in the morning. So, I split another pill and both of us took our half at the same time. She went to bed and I kept working on the PC. After about and hour and half she came back to me saying she is not feeling sleepy at all. She felt wide awake and very fresh. So, we kept on talking for about 3 hours on various topics without an argument. Just so letting you know that I have never been able to talk to her for so long without an argument in the last 6 years or so. We both felt great!
So, we kept on talking and finally she went to bed around 4:00 AM. Still could not sleep for another 2 hours or so. Finally she slept around 6 AM and I am still wide awake and no signs of sleepiness and not much tiredness either.
So, the medicine seems to be very effective on us. This was an experiment. So, I will have to find the right dose for future use.
Coherence is an excellent seller and the packaging is really professional. I am a very happy customer and will be glad to order again when in need.
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around 10:45 PM my SO was getting ready to go to bed
I made this mistake the first time I took modafinil: attempting to keep my regular sleep cycle by going to bed around the same time as normal (note: haven't tried armodafinil yet, and haven't read up on how its effects differ to regular modafinil). If taken after midday, 200mg of modafinil will most likely allow you to skip a night's sleep, though you may find yourself tiring from 9am onwards. Keep that in mind for next time.
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Here's an excerpt from a study I was reading called: Armodafinil and Modafinil Have Substantially Different Pharmacokinetic Profiles Despite Having the Same Terminal Half-Lives
Analysis of Data from Three Randomized, Single-Dose, Pharmacokinetic Studies
Mona Darwish,1 Mary Kirby,1 Edward T. Hellriegel2 and Philmore Robertson Jr2
Abstract:
Background and objective: Armodafinil, a non-amphetamine, wakefulness- promoting medication, is the R- and longer-lasting isomer of racemic modafinil. Armodafinil has been shown to improve wakefulness in patients with excessive sleepiness (ES) associated with treated obstructive sleep apnoea, shift work disorder or narcolepsy. In comparison with modafinil, armodafinil maintains higher plasma concentrations later in the day in healthy subjects. The objective of this analysis was to characterize the pharmacokinetic parameters related to those higher concentrations.
Methods: Data from three randomized studies in healthy adult subjects receiving single doses of either armodafinil (50, 100, 200, 250, 300 or 400 mg) or modafinil (400 mg) were pooled, and subsequently dose-normalized to a 200 mg dose for each drug. Non-compartmental pharmacokinetic parameters were assessed.
Results: Armodafinil and modafinil both had a mean single-dose terminal elimination half-life of ~13 hours, with similar mean maximum plasma drug concentration (Cmax) and median time to Cmax values. After reaching Cmax, plasma concentrations appeared to decline in a monophasic manner with armodafinil, but in a biphasic manner with modafinil due to the initial rapid elimination of its S-isomer. As a result, mean area under the plasma drug concentration versus time curve (AUC) from time zero to the time of the last measurable concentration (AUClast) and AUC from time zero to infinity (AUCinf) values were 33% and 40% higher, respectively, with armodafinil compared with modafinil on a milligram-to-milligram basis.
Conclusions: Despite similar half-lives, plasma concentrations following armodafinil administration are higher late in the day than those following modafinil administration on a milligram-to-milligram basis. The different pharmacokinetic profile of armodafinil may result in improved wakefulness throughout the day in patients with ES compared with modafinil.
Full Conclusion:
Armodafinil and modafinil have substantially different late-day pharmacokinetic profiles despite having similar early pharmacokinetic profiles and indistinguishable t1⁄2b values after single-dose administration in healthy adult subjects. Based upon a visual inspection of the respective profiles, modafinil appears to have a biphasic elimination profile, which is consistent with the rapid elimination of the S-isomer in the racemate, while armodafinil, the pure, longer-lasting R-isomer, appears to have a monophasic elimination profile and maintains higher plasma drug concentrations later in a dosing interval than modafinil on a milligram-to-milligram basis. The pharmacokinetic profile of armodafinil may result in improved wakefulness throughout the day in patients with ES compared with modafinil.
Just thought it might be of some use to you guys =P. Anxiously waiting on my armodafinil myself so I can try it out! I won't have any modafinil to verify this claim. Also, it may be worth noting: This analysis was sponsored by Cephalon, Inc., Frazer, PA, USA. All authors are employees of Cephalon, Inc.
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Thanks for that info Camel. Have you tried modafinil before, and kept a diary (or at least track of the dosage and sleep times)? If so, I'd be interested to read your reports on the difference between the two.
Also, worth quoting the below:
Armodafinil vs Modafinil
Are you looking for a drug that helps you stay awake and focussed? Do you want to take your focus and concentration to the next level? Very often, people suffering from ADHD, fatigue as a result of antidepressant treatment and chronic fatigue syndrome have benefitted from Armodafinil. In fact, the drug has proven to be as effective as the commonly-used stimulants methylphenidate (Ritalin, Metadate, Concerta, and others) and amphetamines (Adderall, Dexedrine, Vyvanse, and others) for ADHD. Students have experienced the effects of this wonder drug as well and it has helped them remain alert and awake while they prepare for exams.
A number of studies have concluded that Armodafinil is stronger when compared to Modafinil and the effects last longer. On our site, myModafinil.com, we sell Armodafinil as Waklert 150mg (while Modalert we sell comes in 200mg pills), it (Waklert) is equivalent to about 300mg of Modalert. This makes Armodafinil an ideal drug for anyone who has tried Modafinil but is looking for a pill with effects that last longer without the unpleasant side effects of typical stimulants. Also, anyone who still feels fatigued even after taking Modafinil can try Armodafinil and experience its long-lasting effect.
Excessive sleepiness has turned into a major problem, fueled by the growing need to stay awake longer due to work, study etc. To tackle this, doctors across the world prescribe analeptic medications such as Provigil and Nuvigil. Apart from its use as a prescription medicine, Armodafinil has grown popular for a number of off-label uses including treatment of depression (especially when used with anti depressants).
Source: http://mymodafinil.com/armodafinil/
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Just wondering what your position on refunds are coherence. Can anybody tell me?
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My psyc doc was awesome enough to prescribe me 250 MG of Nuvigil (Cephalon's) for college (the script said shift-work sleep disorder of course lol), and I must say they are amazing. I'm so productive on them that I stay caught up in class and can enjoy my weekends. I've had the Indian modalert and Nuvgil just blows it away; there's no comparison. I would sell a few if anybody wants to try one.
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My 10 pack of Modafinil Arrived today!!
This is my first successful SR order so I'm absolutely stoke in every way.
Coherence had awesome communication with me. Prompt and to the point, but friendly.
The packaging was discreet, I must admit I chuckled a little.
It arrived in 11 days to Australia which is expected.
I just took one pill, and I'm about to see what happens! :)
So happy right now, thank you coherence, I'll be buying off you again in the near future.
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Nice one Humble. How long were you up for on your first dose of Modafinil?
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Nice one Humble. How long were you up for on your first dose of Modafinil?
Hmmm, If I take one in the morning (7Am) I'm lightly energetic throughout the entire day until bedtime.
I usually take one and a half for lectures and classes, at that dose I'm extremely energetic, sharp and can concentrate well.
They usually last for about6-8 hours for me.
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Coherence, If I may ask, which one do you yourself prefer more? Modafinil or Armodafinil?
People who have tried both may also answer this question I would appreciate it a lot :)
I did order 2x Armo from Coherence a longish time ago. Took a while to get here (blame the post), but the packaging was absolutely marvelous :)
Can't feel a thing from outside and looks so professional (just like a business letter or a bill).
Anyways what I was going to say was that I really did like what Armodafinil could offer me, but I'd just like to know that should I order Armo or Moda the next time I'm purchasing from Coherence? I did some research and found out that Armodafinil is basically an enantiopure version of modafinil, containing only the working isomer of Modafinil, which is a racemic mixture of the both isomers (50/50). However I've seen people on other forums claiming, that they get more out of modafinil, which sounds pretty odd as it should technically be weaker than Armodafinil.
Share your thoughts please. Thanks in advance!
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Hi,
I bought some Waklert from Coherence on SR (had it kicking around for a while whilst waiting to finish some antibiotics I was on for wisdom teeth removal). The Waklert packaging says it is made my Sun Pharma but when I checked on Sun Pharmas website to see if it was made by them it isn't listed as one of their products though everything else like their Modafinil generics are. Checked here:
http://www.sunpharma.com/product-list.jsp
Does this mean that Waklert is not made by them, not generic Armodafinil (patent hasn't expired even in India where patents are shorter) and in fact this is just a scam drug or caffeine packed higher dose Modalert or worse yet rat poison/speed?
Has anybody else here academically disciplined done some digging into this before taking it?
I think this needs to be looked into very quickly before anybody else takes it!
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wow this modafinil sounds interesting. might have to have a trial soon. keep ya posted folks ;)
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Hello mrmdma,
Although I'm not a stoner (which should be obvious from my choice of recreational/occupational drug) if you are going to talk to me like I am one then I'd prefer dudette or dudess to "dude" though not to sterotype but anyone who uses such terms now is generally seen as a frat boy or a dyke with a crew cut index finger pecking their keyboard trying to be "cool" though if this is not the case with yourself mrmdma and you were trying to insult me by calling me " ill-bred and ignorant, but ostentatious" as per the true meaning of dude (according to Wikipedia which you like to quote incorrectly) then go auto-sodomize as I am anything but a dude of that meaning.
I do use Google very frequently (though prefer WolframAlpha). Using Google I checked to see if Waklert is was made by Sun Pharma as per packaging and how I found the following resource on their site (that any one curious can check), after finding no reliable source to say it is produced by them, which suggests according to their own admission it is not made by Sun Pharma:
http://www.sunpharma.com/product-list.jsp
Plenty of other substances which might constitute an active ingredient in these Waklert tablets could explain being up all night. As for the alcohol anecdote, I'm only a slight female but I've hit the cosmos pretty hard and stayed up long enough to burn the alcohol out on more than occasion when I was more easily lead astray and was even pulled over by LE to be breathalyzed on one scary occasion without even a slight trace of alcohol registering as have many other people for various reasons (http://www.niaaa.nih.gov, 2012) so your point there is moot.
The text from Wikipedia quote is poor as it is from contributor talk, not an article, has no live references and the dead reference (if it was ever live) is to a non-authoritative source (not that a dead reference that links to nowhere would ever be something to substantiate a claim). Your quote also just confirms my suspicions and justifies my inquiry.
I'm not suggesting Coherence is deliberately peddling rat poison/meth/caffeine under the name of Waklert but that maybe he along with a few clearnet tolerated illegal pharmacies (which is likely where Coherence buys his supply from) have been duped and that maybe it is time for us to find out one way or another what is in these Waklert tablets and who is really producing them. If you use Google you will notice I am not the only person who has been wondering about the safety and origin of Waklert and that some of the rumors are pretty horrendous (so I'm going to be courteous to Coherence and his customers by not repeating them here, but a simple Google or Bing will reveal them).
I've emailed Sun Pharma in Hindi to ask them directly about Waklert (and if I receive a reply I will post it here along with a translation for anyone else who is curious but I apologize in advance if my translation is poor as is this post, I have only been learning English for a few years). Kind fanboy trolling for defensive reasons is obviously all we're going to get here.
- Lala.
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They ignored the email I sent in Hindi but replied to the one I send in English so nothing is lost in translation. Maybe I should strip out the phone number in the above but leaving it in atleast allows other to verify what they may be suspecting.
WAKLERT IS NOT PRODUCED BY SUN PHARMA!
Whatever that means we'll just have to make up your own minds as I don't have the time right now to dig any further into this but I would warn people that if it is made by the proclaimed name on the packaging then perhaps the contents aren't what they are proclaimed to be either.
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Subject: Fw: Enquiry
From: Ajay.Khandelwal@sunpharma.com
Date: Mon, July 23, 2012 6:33 am
To: XXXX@tormail.org
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Dear XXXX,
Thanks for using Sun Pharma Web Portal. Please note that Sun
Pharmaceutical Industries limited or its subsidiaries are not
manufacturing this product for sales and distribution in United Kingdom.
Thanks and Regards,
Dr. Ajay Khandelwal
Corporate Quality
Sun Pharma Advance Research Center
Vadodara
Phone : +91 265 6615500 ext. 1717.
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They ignored the email I sent in Hindi but replied to the one I send in English so nothing is lost in translation. Maybe I should strip out the phone number in the above but leaving it in atleast allows other to verify what they may be suspecting.
WAKLERT IS NOT PRODUCED BY SUN PHARMA!
Whatever that means we'll just have to make up your own minds as I don't have the time right now to dig any further into this but I would warn people that if it is made by the proclaimed name on the packaging then perhaps the contents aren't what they are proclaimed to be either.
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Fw: Enquiry
From: Ajay.Khandelwal@sunpharma.com
Date: Mon, July 23, 2012 6:33 am
To: XXXX@tormail.org
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Dear XXXX,
Thanks for using Sun Pharma Web Portal. Please note that Sun
Pharmaceutical Industries limited or its subsidiaries are not
manufacturing this product for sales and distribution in United Kingdom.
Thanks and Regards,
Dr. Ajay Khandelwal
Corporate Quality
Sun Pharma Advance Research Center
Vadodara
Phone : +91 265 6615500 ext. 1717.
++++++++KARMA++++++++
And sorry for calling you a dude :) I don't know what to think of this right now. Would be cool to get coherence's input on this matter.
I myself will look a little more into it too and post back.
I found a few posts on nootropic forums of people saying the same as Lala had found out. Waklert is not produced by Sun Pharma. It also makes me fell a little paranoid that there is only very little information available on it (waklert) on the web. As I said before, would be really nice to hear what Coherence has to say about all this. The pills definitely worked last time, but it would be cool to know that can they really be trusted as genuine armodafinil.
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OK Lala, you've definitely caught my attention, because I ordered 120 pills of 'Waklert' from mymodafinil.com recently: http://mymodafinil.com/armodafinil/
If Sun don't make it... who does? Is it mass-manufactred? And what the fuck is in it? I'll be watching this thread with interest, and will post in here if I find any answers...
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Well I need to calm down a bit anyway (was a bit menstrual to say the least recently). That email they sent is still open to misinterpretation so we'll wait for a better reply in their native tongue first as I think that "United Kingdom" bit could simply be legal avoidance. They other email I set them using an Indian VPN in Hindi will be the most revealing when they reply to it.
I'm just sticking to Modalert for the time being (which I've bought from Coherence in the past and have no issues with).
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It could be that Sun Pharma is "illegally" manufacturing Armodafinil. Armodafinil is rather new and the patent is still valid for years. Does anyone know what the Indian patent loophole is?
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They're a bit complicated as the government can just turn patents over if they feel that it is the countries best interest and that the patent is nothing really new (but just something else slightly improved - like Ubuntu which is based on Debian which is a Linux which is based on MINIX which is based on an open UNIX, etc or more topically perhaps Armodafinil on Modafinil if there is no significant difference). Needless to say the patent has not expired or been over turned on Armodafinil.
It's quite worrying that a big company is so happy to flaunt the law if it is made by Sun Pharma (even if it is daft needless law, I'm very Open Source and Cntrl-C/Cntrl-V so do understand especially coming from a poor family who would ever have been able to afford brand drugs if we got really sick but this is not a life saving drug). What is even more worrying though is that there is no clear line back to a manufacturer so you can't depend on quality or safety (not that buying from SR is the safest way to do anything but I think it is better than an anonymous website hosted on a Russian server. On SR you at least have some sellers who are the source such as with cannabis, and those who are unscrupulous rippers can eventually be doxed and held accountable. Then again that's why I think most recreational drugs should be legalized - quality control, safety and free choice based on full information - also when things go wrong you would know what happened).
Collarbones I hope for your purchase you have a good safe drop (and that your are using an anonymous payment system).
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Here is a reply I received from staff of mymodafinil.com:
I am aware that it's not on Sun Pharma website (Indian Drug Database: http://www.medindia.net/drug-price/armodafinil/waklert-50-mg.htm), but I don't know why. It's easily available in pharmacies in India, just like Modalert.
One answer is that perhaps their website is simply not up to date. Another is that there might be a controversy around it - Provigil is a patented drug, and the only reason Sun Pharma can legally produce Modalert, is because India doesn't have to respect patent laws on drugs developed before 1995 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmaceutical_industry_in_India#Patents). Provigil is from the 1970s. However Nuvigil (Cephalon's armodafinil - the original) was developed after that, I know it received FDA approval only in 2007. There is a discussion in the community whether it was developed because it's really better (I personally prefer it, and so does a lot my customers - but it's a personal thing. Armodafinil last longer and feels more balanced - I guess you will see for yourself) or because Cephalon's patent on Provigil (modafinil) was expiring.
My package arrived today. I'll be trying it with a friend this morning, and will report back.
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Here is a reply I received from staff of mymodafinil.com:
I am aware that it's not on Sun Pharma website (Indian Drug Database: http://www.medindia.net/drug-price/armodafinil/waklert-50-mg.htm), but I don't know why. It's easily available in pharmacies in India, just like Modalert.
One answer is that perhaps their website is simply not up to date. Another is that there might be a controversy around it - Provigil is a patented drug, and the only reason Sun Pharma can legally produce Modalert, is because India doesn't have to respect patent laws on drugs developed before 1995 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmaceutical_industry_in_India#Patents). Provigil is from the 1970s. However Nuvigil (Cephalon's armodafinil - the original) was developed after that, I know it received FDA approval only in 2007. There is a discussion in the community whether it was developed because it's really better (I personally prefer it, and so does a lot my customers - but it's a personal thing. Armodafinil last longer and feels more balanced - I guess you will see for yourself) or because Cephalon's patent on Provigil (modafinil) was expiring.
My package arrived today. I'll be trying it with a friend this morning, and will report back.
That' great man! I'm now pretty sure it's the patent loophole they are exploiting and that the Armodafinil manufactured by Sun Pharma is infact 100% legit.
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Yes, I can confirm that Waklert is 100% legit. A Sun Pharma rep just sent me a 9 page product information brochure. I can share this if anyone wants it. Either by hosting it somewhere or posting the text in a PM - let me know. I have asked why Sun don't list the product on their database and will let you know if I hear back - they might not want to say, for obvious reasons.
I took 150mg Waklert for the first time today, at 10am. It's 10pm as I type this. Having used modafinil (Modalert, to be specific) 10-12 times in the past I can report that armodafinil is a much subtler drug.
In my experience, modafinil comes on quite strong after the first hour; hours 2-4 can usually be characterised as 'speedy'. I generally feel really 'up', and motivated, and get a whole lot of shit done in a rush. Then the effect tends to level off, and I shift down to a plateau of general wakefulness from hours 4-16. (I'm speaking generally, from memory - these aren't exact times, though I did keep a 'trip log' with timestamps of all my first dealings with modafinil.)
With armodafinil, I felt none of those feelings. No rush, no surge of inspiration/energy. I suppose this means that armodafinil is a superior drug because they've ironed out the 'kinks'; what I mean by that is, I doubt they meant for modafinil to have that speedy kick at the beginning. It doesn't make sense to me. Unless its purpose is to fully jolt the narcoleptic out of any chance of falling asleep? This is just me theorising on the fly, so feel free to tell me if I'm talking shit.
In summary - armodafinil seems to be very effective at what it's made for, which is keeping sleepy people awake. I know I'll be up for at least a few more hours, and that I could probably stay awake until morning if I occupied myself with tasks. But it's a low-level wakefulness rather than the sudden 'hit' I've encountered with modafinil around the 45-60 minute mark.
I'd like to hear how my experience with the drug differs to others. Body weight and age no doubt factor into the equation, but I'm not going to reveal either of those on here.
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By the way, I have seen few times people saying that nicotine is a great booster for armodafinil and modafinil. I myself don't smoke so I can't say this for a fact, but it would be cool to hear if it's true, if there is a smoker among us.
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I'm not a smoker either, so I can't confirm.
Sun don't list Waklert on their product database because "the list on the website is for international markets, and we do not offer either of these internationally."
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Further to my first armodafinil experience outlined above:
I went to bed at 2am and was unable to sleep until around 3.30am. That's 17.5 hours all up, having taken the 150mg pill at 10am. So it seems considerably stronger and longer-lasting than modafinil. This caught me off-guard, obviously, but now I know for next time. I probably wouldn't take it after 8am in future, unless I planned to stay up all night.
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Hello everyone,
I saw some question here that I thought I could help answer with my personal experience.
I have used both Modafinil & Armodafinil purchased from Coherence. In my experience the effects are indistinguishable from each other. It MAY be that Armodanifil suppressed my appetitie less than Modafinil did, but i suspect it's because of tolerance since I started with Modafinil and this was my first time taking such drugs. Also, with Modafinil I get a bit of jaw clenching, but then again it could also be due to tolerance.
I'm an on & off smoker and I do not like mixing cigs with either drug. When I take Ar/modafinil I get the increased mental capabilities, but at the same time my brain feels kinda foggy and a bit tired (usually about 2 hrs after ingesting) even though my body may feel energized and even if I had just woken up. Regardless, i still get the kick to go out and do stuff. On the first day I literally sprang out of my chair because sitting on the pc doing work online wasn't challenging enough, lol.
Mixing with caffeine will definitely give you more of a boost. Whenever I feel it wearing off, I drink an energy drink with caffeine instead of topping up with another pill.
Peace & Love
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Baught Modafinil (generic) - 200mg x 10 tablets Coherence(100) Arrived in 5 days to AUS.
Armodafinil (generic Nuvigil) - 150mg x 10 tablets Arrived in 5 days to AUS.
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What happened to this seller? I can't imagine he was busted given what he was selling (unless he used another account for harder stuff.)
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What happened to this seller? I can't imagine he was busted given what he was selling (unless he used another account for harder stuff.)
maybe he's taking some time off? Sad thing is my latest order from him never arrived :(
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I can sell some 250 mg Nuvigil if anyone is interested. Name brand, US Pharma. but it would be US only. PM me if you're interested I got a script worth. I can have high posters vouch that I'm legit.
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I can sell some 250 mg Nuvigil if anyone is interested. Name brand, US Pharma. but it would be US only. PM me if you're interested I got a script worth. I can have high posters vouch that I'm legit.
Imo wrong place to post your advertisements.
On the other hand I had an order go missing and this gentleman refunded me 100%! Thank you Coherence.
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i am glad i found this thread writing here to find my way back. need to do some research
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Hi folks, thanks for the kind words. I'm glad to announce that I'm back :-)
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Hi folks, thanks for the kind words. I'm glad to announce that I'm back :-)
Hi man! Nice to have you back on the road!
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I ordered 4 days ago and the package arrived today. Stealth is very good and so are the pills (ordered modafinil and armodafinil). So, great to have you back on the road.
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Just want to say that I ordered from Coherence about a year ago and his services and product are very good (I still have a few Modafinil pills left for special occasions ;)), it's worth ordering from him :D.